Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-36780658-20181205161030/@comment-34578108-20181206033040

Haf1 X wrote: Dbs: it retcons things. It also make trunks relevant because the plot needs him to be relevant (like ssj rage. What the heck is a ssj rage?)

Db GT: it has many good ideas but failed to execute them SSJ Rage is basically an enhanced transformation (like Vegeta's - Super Vegeta) it is an upgrade to SSJ2. I think it may have little godly ki in there, since it could go against Black but I don't know that.

On the topic: I personally feel DBS is better than GT.

GT had some amazing concepts (as everyone has already said but stay with me) but the problem was how to present these characters. The Black star Dragon balls was just spacing out, a lot. Then Goku got turned into a kid - that was just acidic for me and a lot of people.

Really the only saving grace of GT was the Baby arc, with the emergence of SSJ4 and the idea of Baby and then the Super Vegeta vs Goku and then revival of Adult Goku. But then they just discarded that idea until much later, making him a child again.

Super on the other hand had mulitple positives, even if it just recycled earlier DB and DBZ ideas. Goku Black was not a new concept (Turles was there in DBZ) but then again the arc was followed through so nicely, with their power levels clearly laid and not arbitary (except rage which is quite a huge boost from SSJ2). Then the ToP, brilliant reimagining of the DB tournament arc on a universal scale (except for how UI came into being, and Jiren's inexplicable power) it was still seriously fun to watch