Talk:The Ultimate Android Super 17/@comment-31723614-20180730115415/@comment-29376732-20180730193615

He literally is an Extreme SSJ4 Vegeta that trades countering supers for damage reduction, SSJ4 Vegeta is not the best unit but far from the worst he is on equal footing with all the 120% leads people just complain because "HiS PaSsIvE tAkEs So LoNg To GeT gOiNg", funny thing nowadays he can reach is full power in 2 rounds easily, honestly he has one weakness and that is not having BBB, otherwise he is almost flawless considering he is almost a year old at this point.

As for his place he can actually very easily be on the main rotation of the category, he shares 3 links with #17 and #21, I think a good rotation would be.

PHY #17-Super 17

Android #21- EZA Perfect Cell

then have one #17 float, alongside LR Androids (activate a lot of different links, still hit pretty hard, fairly easy to rainbow) and Good Android #21, at least that is how I would keep my rotations. Also just to make a point Super #17 is easily the 3rd strongest in this category unless you can pull #21's transformation then he becomes the 4th.