Thread:NegativeSymptom/@comment-31132722-20161202180657/@comment-29648466-20161202184104

(1) An Admin specifically asked you to refrain from a certain action and instead of complying you decided to do the exact opposite.

(2) When it comes to Global you will be able to tell CakeBuu either "I was right", "You were right", or "Damn we were both wrong" and the page will probably need to be edited regardless.

(3) I understand your convinction and perseverance to work on the Wikia and I appreciate your contributions, but when you deliberately do something that were you asked not to do by an admin you are asking for recourse. When you put yourself in that position it is not a logical argument to accuse him of abusing his administrative position.

Proph there were times in the past where you made edits to the cards (if I recall correctly - and if I am confusing you for someone else I sincerely apologize) where you were trying to specifically place the stun rates on the cards and in the descriptions when the cards themselves do not read that way. EVEN IF you (or another person) were "correct" on your/their analysis, it was not listed in the card that way and thus could be seen as being "incorrect".

Correct and/or incorrect will not be decided until each card is actually released on Global and we have concerete information to input on to each card. Whenever we get any card added to the Wikia that is exclusively available in Japan (temporarily) we do not know with 100% accuracy what will be "Correct" or "incorrect", we simply do the best we can based on the information that we have which consists of, in no particular order, (1) Translations (like "SSVegito"), (2) Previous Card Information (like "Super Gogeta" and "Super Vegito"), and (3) Existing Language in other cards to help us realize that an "increase to attack by 100%" will really translate in global to "ATK +100%". Thus, to state something is correct or incorrect at this juncture is a falacy when you both have equal footing to argue your positions.

Lastly, if you ask me not to do something and I do it despite your wishes, I feel fairly confident that you would retaliate in some fashion or at the least undo my edits/actions. This is no different, but you are doing it with an appointed admin. Unfortunately whether or not you agree with it, CakeBuu is following his role of being an admin by making these decisions. You wouldn't expect someone in a position to authority, after asking you to please refrain from an action to quietly sit there and let you continue to do it over and over again would you? It's unfortunate that there are more consequences when dealing with an admin and/or person with authority but you have to realize that he entertained that conversation well beyond what I expected him to. The decision was made early on in the thread and the dissent and dialogue continued with no end in sight. The worst part of all of this is that there is a very high chance that regardless of whatever name is choosen, the card will need to be changed when it hits global.

Again, I appreciate your concern and dedication to accuracy, but at this point the decision has already been made and to deem the direct translation of a Japan-exclusive card (temporarily) as accurate or inaccurate is just not prudent.

We all esseentially find an appropriate name that we all agree on and move forward. It is unfortunately that in this situation we were unable to get a majority view as to what was the appropriate name. I am sorry to everyone reading this and who has read the entire threads associated with this subject that things have turned out the way they did.

Proph, CakeBuu, and NMBR ... and WickedVegito, and anyone else I'm missing - Please continue contributing to the Wikia responsibily - your contributions add a lot of color and fuller experience to the Wikia and I would hate for this one issue to divide us and create any more animosity than it already has.

~Fin~