Talk:The Strongest Pair in the Universe Super Saiyan 2 Caulifla & Super Saiyan 2 Kale/@comment-34554558-20190622185121

This unit came out way too early. It made even the anniversary units look bad and it was barely released ~2 months after those two. Seriously, this unit defends (very high def + dodges) and attacks like a god (additionals and ok secondary boost condition), doesn't have any ki issues, leads a (potentially if you have many LRs) broken category etc. Like, wtf?

The anniversary units also have an easy time getting ki but they're basically carried by their one-time passive skill, which, if you look at the bigger picture, does not make them outdamage LR Kale and Caulifla. They're super good but this one is on another level.

LR Vegito and LR Gogeta still had the edge over LR Goku and Frieza in other aspects apart from damage (and LR Goku and Frieza dropped much later), but Kale and Caulifla is so broken that it made most of the LRs look bad. No other LR can deliver so much at the same time.

I would say this is the most game changing unit ever if it weren't for LR Vegito and his better leader skill. When Vegito dropped Potara became so OP that you could clear (and still can beat most of the new events) dokkan events with Vegito and no one else (yeah, he can literally solo events)...

And honestly, Akatsuki did their best to nerf Vegito. They gave him the worst type in the game (5 dodge is a waste and you can't make him crit and additional for days such as AGL SV and PHY SV) and his atk stat is really low (18k at max) in comparison with K&C (20K), Gogeta (20k), G&F (23k), SS4 Vegeta and Goku (both at 21k). Do I even have to mention the transformation condition? Akatsuki knew how broken Gogeta and Vegito (especially him) would be, so they did their best to not give them atk/def stack sa effect nor make the transformation too common.

But with Kale and Caulifla? Nah... "Let's make this unit as broken as possible. Allow them to stack and let them super attack multiple times, and if their absurd def isn't enough, let's also make them dodge nearly as often as MUI Goku once they hit their max. Don't forget about ki, being in a team with tons of ki links isn't enough, give her 1 ki per turn. Let's also allow her to have absurd boosts overall and give them adidtionals for days."

I wonder what they're saving for LR Full Power Jiren or LR MUI Goku, two characters that deserve to be OP anniversary units.