Talk:Two Makes the Strongest of All Universes Super Saiyan 2 Caulifla & Super Saiyan 2 Kale/@comment-36383063-20200130205650/@comment-37016646-20200202180545

K&C don't have everything from the start lol they have really low defense and can't dodge at all 1st and 2nd turn in short events like SBR, not to mention how Fusions outdamage them both even on short events AND the fact that K&C need a team built around them and need a USS/PS enemy to even somewhat come close to Fusions damage and tankiness.

Overall, K&C are only better in the LGE and that's it.