Talk:Apex of Supreme Saiyan Power Super Saiyan 4 Goku/@comment-36404468-20190714084243/@comment-33126314-20190719012345

at the start of the fight however you'll notice that def is gonna be lower on 18 ki for goku and atk is gonna be lower for 18 ki vegeta. also the leader skill for goku will mean less overall def on the team where you use him as lead and vegeta will have less HP than the goku team. you prefer to run them both on pure saiyans or prefer the one you can build the best overall team for.