Talk:Grim Reaper of Death's Rampage Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks/@comment-33334310-20190311003546/@comment-37937523-20190311034640

It's actually not unlikely to get his 11 Ki. On the SSJ3 Team Gotenks never had that issue except you put him in the 2nd slot. Fusion is a problem unless you put Phy Gotenks and SSJ3 Gotenks on the main rotation. That way SSJ3 Gotenks starts with 8 ki and has all of his percentage ATK links active. And TEQ Gotenks comes really close to PHY Gotenks when we're talking about their 12 Ki supers.

On the SSJ3 Team, the only attack links active for both are Super Saiyan, Fierce Battle and Limit breaking form.

PHYtenks at 100% with his 11 Ki Super:

15,900 x 4.4 (leader skill) = 69,960

69,960 x 2.8 (passive) = 195,888

195,888 x 1.25 (Attack links) = 244,860

244,860 + 2000 (limit breaking form) = 246,860

246,860 x 1.5 (12 Ki Multiplier) = 370,290

370,290 x 6.1 (SA 10 multiplier + 75% dupe system buff + 30% Atk up) = 2,258,769

TEQ Godtenks at 100% with his 12 Ki super:

18,010 x 4.4 (leader skill) = 79,244

79,244 x 1.25 (Attack links) = 99,055

99,055 + 2000 (limit breaking form) = 101,055

101,055 x 1.4 (12 Ki multiplier) = 141,477

141,477 x 2.4 (passive) = 339,544

339,544 x 6.05 (SA 15 Multiplier + 75% dupe system buff) = 2,054,241

11 Ki looks a bit different tho

PHYtenks 11 Ki: 2,413,054 ATK

TEQtenk 11 Ki: 2,646,646 ATK

If Bardock's passive is active

PHYtenks 11 Ki + 40% Atk: 2,754,986

TEQtenks 11 Ki + 40% Atk: 3,684,324

TEQtenks 12 Ki + 40% Atk: 2,859,653

As soon as a  support unit is on the field, TEQtenks with his 12 Ki Super surpasses even PHYtenks with his 11 Ki Super.

BTW if you have two Bardocks on rotation with their support passive active, Godtenks 11 Ki Super ATK value jumps to over 4.7 Million. That's absolutely disgusting