Talk:Super Saiyan 4 (disambiguation)/@comment-33268818-20171025040743/@comment-32233739-20171122155123

care to elaborate as to why?

I'm inclined to agree but I've never had goku

I do have gogeta though

Gogeta hits harder and counters more than vegeta

but vegeta still hits ridiculously hard (both under double omega lead on shadow dragon team, there is only about 100-200K between damage with both often hitting around the 1.5millino mark)

just wanna hear your thoughts