Talk:Limitless Combat Power Super Saiyan Vegeta/@comment-33272261-20190315144439/@comment-27885372-20190315150848

From 100K DEF to 240K is effectively "pretty" good.

And his ATK isn't just "pretty good" but really dang good. Look at those links and this ATK buff he can get what the heck is even that? The fact that he need his final form to be realy optimal is quite sad, but tbh some cards that will make characters like him get their form faster might really well come out now that Active Skills are a thing.

I've gotta say that he is better than both Goku and Frieza. Not saying he is the best TUR this time, even if he could be in TOP 10, i'm not 100% sure due to his transformation mechanic tho.