Talk:Desperate Showdown Super Saiyan 2 Goku (Angel)/@comment-34554558-20190324034127/@comment-34021327-20190326013416

I would definitely count TEQ Coat Vegeta as a win, because the DEF buff from the Super attack is calculated separately from his passive defense, giving him +165.5% DEF after supering. Not to mention he gets the way more relevant conditional effect.

Also, you might as well compare PHY Kaioken Goku with INT Super Vegeta (both units released alongside the Transformation units on saiyan day), and I'd say the latter is better because he gets the immediate power and far, far more defense. though at their maximum strength kaioken goku does have ~300,000 more ATK points than Vegeta.

But yeah, besides that Goku's still got the edge by a point...