Talk:Miraculous Outcome Goku & Frieza (Final Form) (Angel)/@comment-33005074-20180919213859/@comment-33005074-20180919215552

I don't have Tien otherwise I would definitely use him. As for Evo Vegeta it will be very hard choice. As you can see I already got rianbow Goku, Jiren with one dupe and dupeless Toppo (I can't remeber when they first appear). Also it depends on how many stones I will have. Right now I am broke and 10 "free" stones daily are ending soon. I also hesitated to summon on LR Goku & Frieza banner because the rate was really low (but it paid because I actually pulled LR Goku & Zamasu with them).

As for 17 - he is not that good (I agree) but if you can give him leftovers (LR Goku & Frieza are top priority) than he can still be good - 3-4 teq orbs make him really decent tank and hitter. Godku has also good ability - after his super he raises his defense - I observed it Jiren EZA and he is taking around 30-40k damage which is really good (but it is on level 150 something, so in later stages it might become issue).

Just a question for Tien: I never saw him on any banner, Did I just missed him?