Talk:Unrivaled Saiyan's Peak Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta/@comment-30658195-20190130095555

vegeta got shafted so hard again.

1. LS with 130% HP // Goku has 130% def. Goku better.

2. PS he has to build up the attack and starts with defense // Goku starts with attack. Goku better.

3. both shafted - no Shocking speed.

I gotta admit, that he has the advantage over Goku that he Massively raises his attack on super. Vegeta better.

The LR's are not bad, but not what we expected. The stats are obviously high, but those units are nowhere near gamebreaking like the 3rd anniversary LR Gogeta and Vegito.

Massive hype? not anymore.