Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-30736697-20170508230558/@comment-30350582-20170519130318

- I don't know if he was holding back, but saiying that is a tipically goku defender argument :p, i mean that with training he could face him with no problem, because he didnt'e even try so hard

- Freezer is a prodigy but cell hast the cells from freezer and vegeta, even piccolo, which can be considered a prodigy between the namekians

- Freezer only became a real prodigy because of super when they told he was a prodigy who never trained... even with tha info, they told that his father advertised him from not facing Beerus or Majin Buu because they where stronger than him :) (even with training and cosinderin his abilities)

- And the power leves they weren't fucked up until super, for example gokus base form could never had a chance vs cell or majin buu, for example in ssj3 he could face kid bu, but when he ran out of energy and became ssj2 he didnt's stand a chance.