Board Thread:Game News and Announcements/@comment-26239911-20200116120612/@comment-28113666-20200209223535

NegativeSymptom wrote: Krillin had more than his assist holding him back. For example, his 2H basically isn't a move, his specials aside from kamehameha are garbage or meh at best, his range sucks and he doesn't have too many combo routes.

Videl has combos but not much damage, and the fact that she doesn't have a reflect is horrendous and extremely detrimental. Her dodge effectively does nothing cuz she can't do anything out of it most of the time. You dodge an attack but the opponent is still right on top of you, whereas reflects pushes the opponent back and gives you breathing room.

Jiren is a counter centric character and those counters don't work. Plus his command grab is the slowest move in the game. His ki blast is also extremely slow.

Nappa is perhaps THE MOST assist reliant character in the game. He has crazy setups but he needs assists to help set them up. Without assists, solo nappa is barely a character. His combos rely heavily on assists, his setups rely heavily on assists, petty much everything about him relies heavily on assists.

And Blue Vegeta just doesn't have good options. Every Blue Vegeta player uses the same one combo because that's really the only good combo route he has. Plus his special, Big Bang Attack, is supposed to be a way to control the screen, but its abhorrently slow.

They just need to give these characters more to work with. Fix their issues, give them more options, make more of their stuff work together. They really need help. I disagree with Krillin and Nappa, Krillin has only one bad special and that's the senzu bean one and Nappa requiring help should not be a reason to make him low tier, sure he's not casual friendly, but I wouldn't say he needs buffs.

As for Videl I think she would become much better if her dodge became a counter (we'll see what happens when UI releases).

Jiren needs a lot.

And Blue Vegeta is not that bad having only one "great" combo is not the worst deal, but I kinda agree he could get a couple more tools, specially with the Big Bang.