Talk:Apex of Supreme Saiyan Power Super Saiyan 4 Goku/@comment-33272261-20190130134003/@comment-38218823-20190130185420

As far as their categories, the third anniversary units and fourth anniversary units are both good, that’s without a doubt.

But I have to interject to say really? LR Vegito & Gogeta are bad? I’m not trying to be rude, but that’s not the smartest thing to say.

I have Vegito on Global and Gogeta on JP, and on their respective teams theyve never had ki problems. JP I only have Fusions to run Gogeta on but I never have a problem getting off 18 ki supers with him, and his damage when he’s linked with INT Gogeta(I’m not on JP enough to have STR Gogeta’s EZA done) is great.

Vegito I have on Global, and I run him on Majin Buu Saga and Potara. He’s an extremely good unit as well, and once again I’ve never had ki problems(and I don’t run supports, minus PHY Goku Black on Potara but he’s an extreme support). When he’s linked with PHY Super Vegito, or even AGL Super Vegito(I had to run him a bit back when I was lacking the PHY), his damage is still amazingly good, as well as his tanking.

The reason(in my opinion) that the fusion for them is hard to get is because they just don’t need it. Both of them already tank extremely well, do good damage, and have good ki. I’ve never lost an event because they didn’t fuse, as they just don’t get hurt.

I think that these SSJ4s and the Fusions are all extremely good, as well as their categories, but saying that LR Vegito & Gogeta are bad, or even floaters, is an extremely misguided comments