Talk:Eternal Savior Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks/@comment-30202099-20171015125635/@comment-33172342-20171015134117

This guy isn't his upcoming PHY "rerelease", the 11 Ki super attack is where you want to be aiming. At SA 10 and dokkaned, it's a total multiplier of 725%; 505% immense damage + 120% passive + 100% "Massively raises ATK for 1 turn". 12 Ki will still hit reasonably hard because of the passive, but the Extreme modifier caps out much lower than Immense.