Talk:Swirling Ambition Turles (Giant Ape)/@comment-31909934-20180401032059/@comment-4199482-20180401044529

The Dokkan Fest one also gives himself ATK +40% so he's not that far behind. Plus, ya can't beat Immense multiplier, which alone is probably enough to push him over. (Supreme lvl 10 is 430% and Immense lvl 10 is 505%, which probably allows the Dokkan Fest one to surpass with or without more HiPo investment).

Either way, these Turles have different names so you can use both if you wanted to!