Talk:Tier List: Full Power/@comment-33436465-20180630094612/@comment-33272261-20180630210916

I really don't understand your first point, could you restate it?

He'll never be if you threaten him as you do (?)

There are better offensive and defensive options for the first slot, Frieza will not be there on anything close to an optimal team.

Goku ss3 links awfully on many ways and this problem comes of that you want to bring non-conventional units to fullfill that problem

He has common links like Super Saiyan and Fierce Battle, and Over in a Flash (which you made a point about for Frieza so I can for Goku).

''But the fact that a unit is better doesn't mean the other is trash. Is SSBE Vegeta trash? No. Why? There are better units why isn't he trash? If you keep without seeing it at this point, there's not any need to keep this discussion.''

SSBE Vegeta is one of the best units on the Full Power team, but he's not the absolute best, hence why he's in high A-Tier.

You can see how the hardest hitting unit of Potara is a floater, how one of the hardest hitters of Heroes is a floater, how one of the hardest hitters in Pure Saiyans is a floater and how another of the hardest hitters in the game is a floater in Resurrected Warriors.

The hardest hitting units on all of those teams are never floaters. You'll notice that on EVERY one of those teams: the one's off rotation are the ones that are weaker and that there are support units to help the main rotation units. On none of these teams are one of the hardest hitters off-rotation, the ones on rotation are the hardest hitters or help in making the team hit harder.

B- There is seriously no other realistic person that would run what you are saying.

Does it matter what people run vs. what is optimal? I didn't know optimality was decided on what people decide to run.