Talk:Devastating Fusion Power Super Saiyan Gotenks/@comment-34021327-20191009195403/@comment-34438092-20191010092228

Some people, for reasons beyond my understanding, baba SSRs that do not awaken/are weak, and some other people also baba URs that are not that strong. That said, if anyone ever baba'd this Gotenks, they'll have no sympathy from 99% of this community since he was always a powerful addition(A tier since his def prevented him from getting higher), and now is pretty much an S to God tier character thanks to SA15 Immense, Seal, Atk bonus, def bonus, and self Ki.