Talk:Apex of Supreme Saiyan Power Super Saiyan 4 Goku/@comment-36404468-20190714084243/@comment-33431797-20190715064445

They are virtually the same. Their stats are essentially identical, Goku has marginally higher HP and Vegeta has marginally higher ATK and DEF. Goku's 12 Ki super attack raises his def, Vegeta's 12 Ki super attack raises his atk, and both units have their 18 ki super attack raise atk and def, the massive modifier. Though I like Vegeta's leaderskill marginally less as his category has far less units (something like 170 or so units vs Goku's family having nearly 300) and the 130% to HP making them feel a lot more squishy.

The main advantage I'd say LR SS4 Vegeta has over LR SS4 Goku here is he starts with his defense fully at 80% while building his attack, in which Goku is the opposite of. So in SBR, I like to use Vegeta to defend more early on.