Talk:Invincible Battle Form Super Vegeta/Super Trunks/@comment-34021327-20190912115946

I hope you all realize that the Gohan and Trunks serve different roles.

Goku is a support unit. Gohan is a conditional unit.

Vegeta is a transition unit (like SSJ DBS trunks, where you build up ATK and DEF), and Trunks is the main attacker. It's that simple, they all just serve different roles.

Y'all say the debuff is terrible even despite the fact it's Ki +7 and ATK & DEF +140%, which I think is the most powerful passive i've ever seen on a F2P Unit (not counting LRs). If you just let him build up Super ATK thrice in Vegeta form (60% + 30% ATK), he hits 1.4 mil (double 170% lead) and is guarenteed to Super. Drops ATK only by 110,000 ATK for every 2 turns he's off rotation, meaning that even if you activate him later in the game he'll only go sub-1mil after 7 turns.

His defense, doing the same thing with Vegeta (+60% DEF), then he starts off with 145K DEF and 172K after super, dropping 12K before/14K after. He'd go sub-100K after 9 turns (full decrease).

Look me in the eye that Gohan is better off the bat. He's only better when against the conditional enemy. But as for overall units both are equally useful; Vegeta/Trunks is a strong F2P unit and Goku/Gohan is mainly a support but can be transformed into a monster with the right conditions