Talk:Golden Fist Super Saiyan 3 Goku/@comment-34098140-20180101121014/@comment-33212636-20180115232555

On average, he should outdamage LR Gohan by quite a bit, due to the free +5 crit and *slightly-less conditional* 180% ATK boost.

Gohan would need around 10 orbs to reach the same damage, which is honestly less consistent than this guy getting 18 Ki, without an orb changer anyway.

LR SSJ3 Goku also has a fairly decent DEF buff, 120%, down to 50% after ultra super attack, but any +%DEF boost on an LR is massive due to their inherently high stats.

Overall, I'd say this Goku comes out on top, although Gohan *technically* has higher damage potential, given enough orbs.