Talk:The Tier List/@comment-37184974-20181216025939/@comment-37184974-20181216033413

The reasoning for his placement mainly talks about his passive, and it even says he isn’t the optimal leader: when there’s three new leaders one a f2p lr, I don’t think he has a place in s tier as a leader. On super phy he’s better then kale: better stats, better defence and offence and link sets