Talk:The Tier List/@comment-28757546-20170617133419/@comment-28757546-20170617135258

before awakening, he is only SS1 and has a farmable super with the teq one from Black star Saga, he should be reverse-dokkaned first. it is tricky and that make it  worthier to put light on.

I don't really agree Gotenks have a semi farmable SA, unlike the Phy one, since the dokkanable Goten/trunks are sommonable, you can only get like 20 of them in around a year if you don't pay much on the game. not to mention all the ones you already wasted, and the ones you will feed to the SSR SSJ Goten and Trunks. Now if you dokkan them then z-awaken them ayou will give the Phy gotenks a garranteed SA Upgrade, so you will only need 9, that makes Phy Gotenks semi-farmable. while The AGL will have 30-50% chance if i'm right since he is TUR not regular UR. you will need like 15-25 goten-Trunks to do that since it's RNG Based. not to mention all the gotenks medals to farm.