Talk:Tier List: Universe Survival Saga/@comment-35405025-20180425171349/@comment-28362353-20180425225640

@HeroR, Vegeta is above Goku because he has 130% ATK AND DEF AND built in guaranteed 2 Additionals AND built in crits. Goku may have 150% and dodges, but Vegeta has a very close multiplier of 130% that applies to his ATK AND DEF, and also has guaranteed additionals and built in crits, while MUI Goku only boosts ATK and only has dodges. Goku is really good but Vegeta does so much more. That’s why he’s above Goku. Plus, his links are really good. Just because Goku and Toppo happen to link better with Jiren than Vegeta does does not automatically make them better than Vegeta.

@Jdelprat, Toppo is that high because he’s arguably the best support in the game right now (assistance wise, Turles is better damage wise), AND he links incredibly well with Jiren, as well as other units with his SS, ToP, and FB. There really is nothing in the tier list that says supports have to be at the bottom, Toppo is that high because he’s that freaking good.