Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-33510766-20180116093557/@comment-33510766-20180116114725

Liammclovein wrote: Trelaquix wrote: Liammclovein wrote: well this was pointless as the cards dont actually reflect who is supposed to be stronger at all.....

im sure there are SSG/SSB cards that are worse than a yamcha.....

also, just because 1 card hits harder than another doesnt make it better....

SS4 goku hits harder than ss4 vegeta but vegeta is (IMHO) better all around as he can tank - goku needs to super to be able to tank better....

ss4 vegeta still hits for over 1 million, so the extra damage goku does doesnt really matter if he can't defend as well.... I didn't say that Goku cards are better. I was mainly comparing their atk stats to see which cards are stronger; hits harder, does more damage. And I, using the calculations above, came to the conclusion that Goku cards do infact hit harder.

Of course in a real battle alot of other things start to come into factor and defense is also equally as important as atk and can determine whether you win or lose. but you said " I have debated with myself over which of the two saiyans is truely the best on Dokkan Battle"

this doesnt imply anything about which hits harder, but which is the better card overall... again, a pointless exercise as its not about 1 card but about the team.... you could have the best goku card on the wrong team and then any card could be better...

its about the team... and its not about how hard you hit, but how hard you can get hit and still keep on going until the job is done.....

again, this was pointless as the cards you compare are all used on different teams..... so have different use cases

Ok mistake on my part if u misunderstood the whole context of the list and the damage calculations. I meant to say which of the cards are truely the best in terms of damage output.

I made these calculations for fun dude. It’s just for anyone who’s wondering if Goku cards actually have better atk stats than Vegeta’s since this game mainly revolves around dealing damage more so than defending.

I’m not saying that defence is not important but the Attack is probably more important imo, hence there are more cards with leaders, passives, and link skills increasing atk rather than def. Would you prefer a leader with +80% atk or one with +80% def? This argument should be left for another topic. But I sure wouldn’t mind if dokkan made defence a more integral part of the game than it already is now. If anything it would make the game more fun and interesting. I think they’re slowly trying to implement more tanking cards with more passives increasing the defence and reducing damage and also with the dodges.

Also if you want to talk about teams, I’ve placed all the cards into their respective optimal teams with 120% god leaders, 40% supporters and the rest is up to the card atk, links, passive, SA multiplier and 12-ki multipliers. I don’t know what kind of teams you run but I think these calculations are a pretty good estimate for anyone who’s curious to know how much these cards hit under a 120% lead with a 40% support.

I’m assuming you’d want to run your Goku and Vegeta cards on a 120% god lead. I’m also pretty sure that if those cards were in a another team; Super type, RoG, Potata or Shadow dragons, the difference in the damage output of the Goku and Vegeta cards would be relatively similar and more often than not, Goku will out damage Vegeta in most scenarios.

Again, the point of this post was to compare the “damage” output of Goku and Vegeta.