Talk:Lone Guardian Super Saiyan Vegeta (GT)/@comment-31379090-20171208010902/@comment-32342688-20180307155504

That's because you're not running Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta or PHY Pan, Pan helps by providing that ATK and DEF boost so that SSJ Vegeta can tank better and hit slightly harder, I have him with 3 paths open, SA10 and he hits quite hard for me.