Talk:Cunning Counterattack Bergamo (Giant Form)/@comment-36506871-20191210060709/@comment-28362353-20191210151646

First: In the LGE, Cooler, Janemba, and the new Goku are still better. Cooler and Goku completely destroy the event. And Janemba tanks, deals damage, and dodges.

Second: Janemba is better. He has better overall utility. He tanks extremely well and can do more damage plus has built in dodges and EZA stats.

Third: While its true they aren't on the same versions, that doesn't mean you can't compare the two.

Fourth: I never said anything about dokkan fests so idk why you brought it up.

Fifth: LGE disables dodges on the last stage. Sure Janemba can't dodge anymore but that doesn't make him useless. He still tanks extremely well and does very good damage.

Sixth: You forgot LR Androids, LR SSJ4s, LR Gogeta, TEQ Broly, INT Cell, etc. They are all better than Bergamo.

I do enjoy debating units and I'm not trying to argue either. But I feel like something to point out is several units can tank the LGE. When it comes to tanking, as long as you have a high enough stat to not take damage it doesn't really matter in the end. Sure Bergamo can get 600k DEF, but by the time you're at 300-400k you're already at the level where you can pretty much tank every event in the game, so having that extra 200-300k DEF doesn't really add much else since you're already tanking everything. There's several units who can reach that level of tankiness, so in the end it comes down to the overall utility when comparing units who tank.

I'm not saying this Bergamo is bad, he's definitely one of the best TURs, but I don't think he's nearly as absurd as the top tier TURs and LRs like people say he is.