Talk:The True Value of Perfect Form Cell (Perfect Form)/@comment-32151319-20190905043641/@comment-37280913-20190906004522

Hold on a sec, the PHY LR CELL gives him 4 Ki and 15% Attack. So with a +3 leader, he will get 11 Ki, and with a +4 Ki Leader, he will get an auto Super, a 12 Ki Start. Not to mention said LR PHY CELL is on 5 of the 8 Categories the INT one is on. So, if you link him up with the PHY LR version, you need 3 INT Orbs.

Keep in mind, I want to prove to you He is better than LR Fusions. whether he is better than the SSJ4's, is up to you. So the Fusion LR's get ATK and DEF +120% at start of turn; Ki +2 in addition per Ki Sphere obtained, Vegito doesn't have an Orb Changer on his teams, last I checked, so he will be around 15 ish Ki, and sometimes but not rarely get his 18 Ki Super, just Like LR Cell if you Link him with the PHY LR CELL. This LR Cell, has better Super Attack Effects as he lowers Enemy DEF, so this will make up for the Fact the Fusions have 120% Attack and he has 100%, and he has a Far Better Defensive Stat on top. While due to Blue Gogeta, you can run LR Goku and Arale on the Same team as LR Gogeta, you most of the time want to use said Orbs on the LR that made them, though using them for Gogeta isn't dumb at all  in the slightest, its just that G+A NEED ORBS FOR THEIR ATK, AND NEED TO SUPER FOR DEF 

So let's compare the DokkanFest LR's [My Thoughts]

[1] LR Gobros - When their Passive fully built up, which is quite easy to do, 3rd-5th Turn they get +5 Ki 216% ATK+DEF. It's not that the others are bad, its that this LR is the 2nd Best Unit in the Game and is better than the rest.

[2] LR Gohan - Kinda on par with the SSJ4's but his amazing Defence, High ATK Buff in his First form and the F2P Andriod 18 and the fact that 16's 200% Buff allows him to be run on the team, as long as his guard is on. He is actually taking 6k from Normals with it on. So, if you have the right units you can get his Transformation.

[3-way Tie, 3-5] Dokkanfest LR Cell and SSJ4's] LR Cell has Higher DEF+ATK and is far better for Super Battle road but he is less likely to get his 18 Ki even if the PHY Linking partner gives him 4 Ki the SSJ4's give themselves so much Ki. So that's why these 3 are Tied in my eyes.

6/4 LR Gogeta - Is for the most part equal to Vegito, but due to Goku and Arale, SOMETIMES there will be leftover Rainbows, letting them Super better than Vegito.

7/5 LR Vegito -> ON par with Gogeta, but those Leftover Orbs just means so much to me.