Talk:Hope-Filled Strike Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Goku/@comment-36072424-20181122020611/@comment-32855665-20181125153201

many people use the "not a massive upgrade over the str one" as an argument to disadvice people from pulling him, but heres the thing, you can use BOTH ssj4 goku's on the same team, THIS goku can be used on shadow dragons, AND this goku runs a stupid powerful category, i don't really see why people shouldnt summon for this guy.