Talk:Miracle-Calling Clash Super Saiyan Gohan (Teen) & Super Saiyan Goten (Kid)/@comment-39444881-20190512163441/@comment-33541662-20190512184511

The 18 Ki isn't that hard to get off. You probably only need the str goten to get it consistantly (except for maybe the first rotation). I think the other orb changers are a bit overkill, though if you really want it for their first rotation you could keep one of the teq orb changers. I think Dragenser's team is pretty optimal, but I would have prefered to switch vegeta or gohan with the eza goten to link up with the new LR, though maybe you don't need to