Talk:Peerless Gleam Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta/@comment-32737230-20170731204605/@comment-32737230-20170731235951

I agree about making LR vegito irrelevant which brings me back to my point that it's the wrong timing to bring him to global. And you're saying goku hits harder because he links with ss3 goku. Do you think ss4 gogeta won't link with anyone to increase his attack? If he doesn't also have saiyan roar that will only lean further towards my point of them watering him down for global and making him underwhelming. If he has all the links ss4 goku has, which he should, he'll hit harder without question. And I've always thought ssb vegito was overrated on dokkan anyways. If you don't run double ss3 gotenks leads and he's not maxed in the dupe system, he's just alright in my book compared to 120% leads. And all those super characters with the possible exception of ssb vegito i could argue aren't as strong. The only thing you can use to compare them is the ss3 transformation since it's in both and compare it to the transformation after. And I just believe ss4 was a bigger jump than ssb (which I still find as a kinda cheesy transformation if I'm honest). So if I believe that, then I believe that ss4 gogeta is stronger than ssb vegito.