Talk:All-or-nothing Punch Goku (Youth)/@comment-27885372-20190305151611/@comment-27885372-20190309171842

If it's not that high, it's particulary because mosy people who showcases him doesn't make the best rotation for him even when it's not that hard as i shown. And i think that even if his life is over 59%, he still is capable to rival with Gogeta SSJ. Once he is under 59%, for once at least, he is way better than Gogeta SSB. A bit like Super Vegeto and Vegeta SSJ4 LR. (Once you obtain 80% ATK + Active Skill for this dude, he gonna reach way higher summit. But just once)

So yeah, he might only be second or third. (Considering Broly FP also is really OP)

I can't manage to find units that are really stronger than Gogeta SSJ4 as a 5th strongest unit... He does really good damage, dodge SA nearly everytime, have a good DEF after he SA and debuff. (even if it's less relevant these time) 17 is pretty good too, but he will take too much damage if you doesn't have that ATK mitigation... But i think he is close to Gogeta. Perhaps, Vegeta SSB -> Evolution could be stronger.