Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-27996636-20171206104646/@comment-26510251-20171231100524

Kayrus wrote: Would Vegeta really get himself eliminated before Lapis and Gohan?

Will Lapis take advantage of his animal knowledge and defeat Dyspo by using his opponent's hearing against himself?

That and more in the next episode of Dragon Ball BS.

KaiserTrigger wrote:Considering how Goku can't keep using the Kaioken like nothing, and Vegeta was able to resist the usage before, he's just going to have to take a beating, and then crush a weakened Goku. You must be very bad at math to say that.

• Vegeta can't take the hits of a 150 when he's just a 10, The only reason Vegeta survived Kaio-Ken was because, at the time, Goku wasn't stronger than Vegeta without using Kaio-Ken, that's clearly not the case right now.

• Goku is aware of the Kaio-Ken limits, thus he goes for the winning shot soon after, this has been shown against Hit & Bergamo, thus there's no beating to take, there's just defeat.

• Goku's infamous "full power" moment proves he doesn't need Kaio-Ken to squash Vegeta, really, is like you're asking for his 4th death.

KaiserTrigger wrote:Vegeta has far more endurance as far as we can see. That must be the reason why he was defeated so quickly by Hit, and later on by Goku Black. Uh, Goku is not stronger in base. You have nothing to go with that. Thus, Vegeta will be no different. Unlike Goku who has been focusing on only new forms, Vegeta went in the time chamber again and again. Vegeta has a far better reason to be stronger in base.

And clearly you don't pay attention to the show. Vegeta was the one who kept turning blue back then when they hadn't gotten over that, and had been fighting against U6 majority of the time. My how people don't pay attention, and just go with "GOKU MAIN CHARACTER".

Goku never fought Vegeta at full power and wiped him down. Even in the manga, it was implied if Vegeta was not wasted from fighting so much and turning Blue, he would have beaten HIT all the same. Kaioken is Goku's only edge. He's weaker in base form and has always relied on transformations and more to one up him. He was never stronger without things like SS3 and Kaioken. He even seemed to have a better edge in his fight with Goku as Majin Vegeta.