Talk:Super Saiyan 4 (disambiguation)/@comment-33268818-20171025040743/@comment-34897530-20180508235659

@Liammclovien all you talked about was damage output and not about defense, vegeta is the best at defending, and gogeta does do more damage(With no links involved) but vegeta is more balanced.ssj4 goku is not the best because he only outdamages gogeta outdamages him by 20% and gogeta has higher defense. Now all of vegeta's attack links together are a total of 80% attack and gogetas attack links combined are 25% plus 2500 attack(Which is irrelevant). so if you have goku and vegeta on the same team they will acivate almost all of vegeta's links which is 65% and still higher than gogeta, and gogetas attack(Rainbowed) is 2000 more than vegeta,but a 65% extra attack will do more than an extra 2000 attack stat.Gogeta has a 120 attack(Passive) plus 50 attack(super attack effect) plus 25%(links) is 195%, and vegeta is 120(super attack) plus 65(links) is 185.So if vegeta is linked with goku he will hit a little bit lower than gogeta but will tank much better, the only other thing that gogeta has over vegeta is counter chance.