Talk:Tier List: Full Power/@comment-33272261-20181015184845/@comment-33272261-20181023173946

''​​​​LR Goku and Frieza don’t need Tien more than Super Saiyan 3 Goku because they have Shocking Speed, a very common link on this team. They also hit hard on their 12 ki Super. ''

Not particularly, no. You really don't understand how LRs work do you? When Supreme SA 10 > Colossal SA 20, you are going to want to get the 18 Ki. Or is that too complicated?

''Do you even know how ss3 Goku passive work? If he doesn't hit hard he can tank better than those units, so at least does something. LR Goku and Frieza will link with, at least, the main leader oof the team, so there's still no reason for Tien to be here.''

Well you see there is. Since TEQ SSJ4 Goku will be off rotation pretty much always, that's two out of three rotations where LR SSJ3 Goku is not getting Ki from the floater. Meaning you need to have someone that provides him with a starting Ki of 12, i.e. Tien. If not, he almost never gets his 18 Ki off. And let's compare all of their average DEF: LR SSJ3 Goku - 96,034 | LR G&F - 142,685 | SSBE Vegeta - 88,672 | LR Boujack - 114,481

Can tank better right? He barely outclasses the TUR.