Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-36780658-20181205161030/@comment-34578108-20181213050116

NegativeSymptom wrote: They don't act like they never erased universes, in fact, they directly say that they have, and they can do it again and planned to, until Goku stepped in. Hell, they even show the erasure of each universe and the entire future timeline. They don't "act like they never did it" they actually do do it. In GT, you have at max a universal threat. In super, the threat was not only to the universe, but every universe.

And they don't "uselessly act villainously" zen-oh was doing his job as the king of all and maintaining balance within the multiverse, and the grand priest was doing his job by acting as his advisor. Saying that they are villains is like saying Beerus is a villain cause he doesn't care if things gets destroyed as long as its no threat to him.

They aren't villains, they're neutral forces. Neither good nor bad.

Super lays out who the villains are just as much as GT, except this time, they actually flesh out each antagonist, something GT did not do outside of Baby.

I'm not defending supers bad writing, cause it does have some pretty bad writing, just like GT, but all these complaints about these characters you are making are directly explained or disproven by the show.

Now if you said something like "Jiren is a bad antagonist" I'd completely agree, cause his motivations are hardly explained and his back story came way too late to have any impact, but saying things like Goku acts too much like I fight loving fool, Goku put every universe in danger, Zen Oh and the Grand Priest act like villains, and Super doesnt show whos the villain, when they are all explained and disproven by the show makes no sense. You're free to think GT is better, I won't stop you, that's your opinion, but you cant hate on Super for all these things (which they didn't do) without properly looking into each one.

Just wanna end this discussion with that cause I don't wanna make this a massive GT vs Super argument. You can keep your opinion that Super sucks and GT is better, and I'll keep mine that both were good in their own ways, despite their flaws. ummmm This is a GT vs. Super argument. Thats what this page is about. Also I don't think that Super is worse than GT. I think it is the other way round. Its just that the particular points about Super really tick me off.