Talk:Netherworld Demon Super Janemba/@comment-27885372-20191018212247/@comment-27885372-20191019130901

I still had a hard time saying if he was better than Piccolo or Kale and Caulifla. I still do think that Piccolo may be better than him but it's arguable i guess. (I didn't calculate the ATK difference between these two, but i do believe Piccolo is already better defensively in "only" two apparitions, which makes Janemba only better when you play them in SBR)

As of Vegeta SSJ INT, there was a quite a lot of people who argued that Trunks was better, which is understandable seeing how well he worked in the Future and Time Traveler Categories. But now Vegeta is better for sure. For Vegito Blue, i really don't know who is the best now. I may have to do some calculations to find out. The real problem of Vegito Blue is that it's sometimes pretty hard for him to land his 12 Ki SA, and the DEF is also pretty long to build up. He also doesn't have that huge of an ATK stat (for an LR of course), but i'll do some calculations before assuming anything.