Talk:Joined Forces/@comment-27996636-20181213092043/@comment-32594940-20190217172859

It would be top 5 but not the best at all. Goku-Frieza + Tien generates 8 million attack stat (free dupe level) when paired together. The new LR SSJ4 Goku + Full Power SSJ4 Goku generate a combined 7 million (free dupe level). LR SSJ3 Goku + SSJ3 Bardock generate around 6 million. Meanwhile LR Vegito + Gogeta would 'only' generate 5 million at free dupe level. Which is really good but not gamebreaking (and let's face it a 6 turn transformation below 50% is never going to happen with an optimal team so you basically have to count it as though they never transform cause it'll be something like 1/100 of a chance for you to see it on a normal event). But then what do you do with the second rotation? Other than Gogeta and Vegito none of them link up with more than +2 ki. So the second rotation will be 2 LR's at max 8 ki (which means you have to gather 8 ki for them to get an Ultra and do actual damage which will never happen).