Talk:Last-Ditch Battle Android 17/@comment-36063963-20180730184451/@comment-36063963-20180801221609

I know I said my last comment was going to be my last but you guys seem to be pretty respectful and fair people so I don't mind a bit more. Anyway, even if we want to consider support and setting up more valuable than finishing off the play, I still can't agree that 17 is the MVP, but that isn't what my OG comment was about anyway. I understand that people like his cool and calm demeanor but that isn't what makes a character a good character. I mean, it is partially, but it is still important for a character to have motivations, struggles, and all that stuff i'm sure you guys are familliar with. In terms of not getting any random power ups, honestly, the fact that training on an island for 10+ years with no mention of any real challenges that could push him to become stronger, is a random power up in of itself. Honestly, I just find him hard to like because of how unenthusiastic he is and how little he seems to care about almost anything. He's just boring and underdeveloped, on top of being exceptional (if not more than) at everything. Still, everyone looks for and appreciates different qualities in different characters. Many like Goku for his enthusiasm and don't-give-up attitude or Vegeta for his pride and his development as a character from a ruthless prince to fierce, hardworking fighter who cares about his family, or Gohan for his heroism and his development from a scared little boy to a true hero that fights for those he cares about along with his amazing potential and, throughout most of Z, his rage boosts. It's just important to respect everyone's opinions, even if we don't agree.