Talk:Tier List/@comment-13712594-20170210164244/@comment-13712594-20170210215956

You can't place a non dokkan fest card vs a fest card. (together) A dokkan fest card hits harder than card with huge attack boosts with SA etc. The reason why Gotenks belongs SS4 tier is because of a ok leader, His sealing and attack boost together makes him good. Vegito does more damage than a damage booster like SS2 GT Goku.