Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-27996636-20171206104646/@comment-26510251-20171231113238

CakeBuu wrote: I thought the only reason he could do all this is because he is such an idiot, I thought that was the humour behind it...

Vegeta always worked hard but no matter how hard he trys he will never beat Goku because he always is behind him, he always copys him, he is never anything better for that reason, he is a copy cat. Works hard to get to the same place as Goku but by that time Goku has already done something new and better, Hilairious!

I don't get the Naruto reference. Yeah Goku is a fluker. But he knows it, that is his genious.

More facts in fiction. Let's say Beerus felt a bit guilty about back handing someones wife so let Vegetas pride get regained, because Beerus is not that much of a bad guy and has a good side to him. So that's just what he told Vegeta. Goku was basically more like Naruto and Rock Lee. Not Sasuke. His idiocy didn't allow him to get stronger. He was smart enough to see the weakness in the ultra Super Saiyan form, like Vegeta did, and figure that becoming more used to the normal one would be better.

Vegeta had never worked that hard till he met Goku. He was always just throwing himself on the front lines, but never forcing himself into situations that weren't jobs and actually working hard with training. He was fighting, but never learning his own weaknesses like he did after Namek.

So no, Goku has never been more than a hard worker, who had enough smarts to develop new forms, as it was the only thing that could put him ahead. Vegeta is essentially a prodigy. His situation is like the comparison with Frieza in Ressurection F to Goku, but on a smaller scale.

He was still stronger in base most of the time. If he had Kaioken himself, Goku would be wrecked. Goku hardly has the edge without those, in fact, it's always those new forms and moves like Kaioken and SS3.

There's no genious in a fluke, if all you have are flukes. It's bad writing. Which isn't flukes anyways. He got new forms. He beat Frieza by getting SS. He didn't even beat Cell, but fought well because of a new form. A mastered form. He used a spirit bomb to kill Buu, and would do no better than Vegeta, as shown in the show, if it wasn't for SS3. It is clearly stated and shown that new forms are Goku's only edge, and now, he's stopped training his base form like he used to, which is what Vegeta does, with the time chamber, and the apparent ability to power up and blow an entire dimension away, considering it's on a separate plain of existence, and he can somehow now power up his way out of it without a door.

Beerus is not a bad guy in the villain sense. But he has no care for human life the way you or I would. He does not care if he slaps someone for slapping him. That is a huge stretch of logic, as he is willing to kill those that offend him, and never showed remose before, so wouldn't now. He destroyed half a planet for pissing off his taste buds. He only apologized to Bulma after he got what he was looking for. He cares nothing for those that show no value to him, which at the time was providing SSG.

Being a god clearly has separate morals for them individually. And slapping a woman at not even close to 1% of his full power is not beneath him, regardless of if she is someone's wife, considering he's killed people's wives before for simply screwing with his taste buds. So correcting an offense to him is fair game, and only apologized due to Goku and the others still be humble with him after giving him what he wanted.