Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-27996636-20171206104646/@comment-26510251-20180102035040

NegativeSymptom wrote:

KaiserTrigger wrote: And also, when you think about it, UI isn't a multiplier of power, but an increase in reactions. Actually, UI is an increase in power. When Goku fought Jiren in SSBKK x20, he actually landed a few hits (yet these were very fast in the episode is are hard to actually notice.), but they didn’t affect Jiren at all. Yet when Goku was in UI, his attacks were actually visibly damaging Jiren, and that knee to the stomach looked like it actually hurt Jiren. So this would mean UI is not only an increase in speed and reaction time, but in power as well. So UI is even stronger than SSBKK x20. Not only that, he was stated to be even stronger when he was fighting Kafla in UI than when he was fighting Jiren. Then does that mean SSB Vegeta is just as strong? His kick landed the same way, making Jiren react in the same fashion in the preview. That doesn't add up.

It's not an increase in power. It's just a state of mind he has the ability to access from the defensive side, while in a new form. Because what Goku has isn't also true UI, so it's more so that his new form allows him to access him. He still has a new form, and breaking into that allows him to do UI. So UI doesn't add raw power. Whis still had to increase his raw power to make his UI useful. And I'm going to need a citation on where it was stated he got even stronger in UI than before, because he was doing worse against Kefla than against Jiren, where he actually dodged, but got grazed against someone weaker than Jiren. He got grazed on the hair and on the elbow.

Even Whis stated it's not genuine UI like the angels have. Jiren was barely fazed by any of those attacks. He just for a brief second reacts.