Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32478719-20170617144601/@comment-28757546-20170618232018

Kayrus wrote:

Darthhue wrote: In both the manga and the anime Future Trunks asked him about it You sure about that?

In the anime, episode 54, Trunks ask his father to transform into a SS3, Vegeta just laughs at the request.

I couldn't find anything on the manga, and the scene above never happened in the pages.

Instead there's a scene with Vegeta training Trunks, chapter 17, in the Gravity Room, both in their base form, without any dialogue. I told you, you're the expert, i certainly remember reading it and, watching it, and Vegeta turning Blue or something. All i'm talking about is in that scene, if there's nothing in it, than there's nothing. But the point is beynd that, Broly was killed in his legendery SS form, he certainly never reached SS3 and never could. While Vegeta reaching SS3 is likely to have happened, he certainly have enough power and control to reach it. It is just that there weren't any circumstance for Toriyama to show it, and he's not exploiting those kind of moment like they deserve anyway, we saw him in the manga casually using SSG form, and we never seen him achieve it, it was like, implied. They didn't even say if he underwent the ritual or achieved it by another mean. ALso Goku using the HAkai wasn't explained either. And what also give me the impression Vegeta had learnt SS3 is, when he talked to Cabba about SSBlue, he said the form can be achieved with hard training, and i guess that kind of training is more than enough to achieve SS3. Since Goku achieved it way before SSBlue. Where did Broly ever have such training?