Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-30487496-20180529162754/@comment-33555938-20190101231008

KaiserTrigger wrote: Whalordius TDD wrote: Dude, I'm just saying that old leads and older units can still be good. Take the teq super buu for example. Up until SBR, no one liked him. Now everyone uses him for the extreme teq part of it.

You are saying that old leads don't get you far, yet I've been able to destroy events with even some of the worst leads. (Example: extreme TEQ) because even if its a bad lead and doesn't have a good team, its relatively cheap, and doesn't need much.

Other teams, like super STR and extreme PHY are expensive, but with the right filler units can still be good. (I was this way with extreme phy.) So your argument of older leads not taking you far is invalid, as many (such as I.) Still use them and obliterate events. Sure. Still be good... But that doesn't mean they're up to date on the meta. Not every old unit can do what Gogeta can do.

Try running an old leader, and then putting in whatever starting team you have. Your leader DOES NOT CARRY THE TEAM BY ITSELF.

Thus, why get rid of 4 SSR's just for one leader?

You do not obliterate events based on the leader alone. Mono teams do not work unless you have a good enough set of units to support the leader, which is FAR EASIER SAID THAN DONE.

So my argument is valid. Your experience is not determined by your leader. Try running a Chaoitzu super INT SR on that Super INT team. See how well he does. Or an SSR Int Future Trunks SS.

Try running the massive amount of useless VERY old SSR's you'll get summoning on a regular banner. I have, in fact, I used an OG buuhan lead, and my old extreme int team ad buuhan and into janemba (glb) carried the whole team. You CLEARLY only worry about damage, and not all other factors that win you a game. Damage is not everything, and as far as I can tell with your statement, that's all your trying to prove. Units don't die quickly, I still use buuhan as a lead every now and then, and I still beat events with no continues with him.