Talk:All or Nothing Super Saiyan God SS Vegito/@comment-33005074-20180306115052/@comment-4199482-20180309155621

PHY VB actually does outdamage 100% LR VB, but it's a little more of a gamble. My max LR VB does consistently 900k for the first 12-17 ki SA and 1.7 million for the 18+ ki. His 18+ ki crits for about 2.2 million. Now, my PHY VB only has 2 dupes, but he already does 500k per SA and about 350k per counter. So he usually does 750k per SA crit and abou 500k or so with counter crits. If he did at least one of each then he's already at 1.2 million, which is more than 50% of LR VB's 18+ ki non-crit SA and about 50% of that with crit. But PHY VB usually does more, especially if he's taking a dokkan boss's hits, so he already approaches LR VB with 2 dupes. At 3 dupes, which is when the calculations show he's superior, I can easily see him doing more damage than LR VB. One thing to mention is that PHY VB spreads out his crits whereas LR VB is literally "all or nothing" with them. Oh and I really can't emphasize how broken critical counter attacks are. Like they're my favorite thing in this game.

So go with LR VB if you have PHY VB with less than 3 dupes. If you have PHY VB with 3 or more dupes, use him for dokkan events where the boss attacks a lot. If you need more tanking, since PHY VB's damage reduction isn't great, then take LR VB.