Talk:Overwhelming Combat Strength Vegito/@comment-26208209-20171218042728

I'm still amazed at how many people defend this unit when he's complete garbage. I've tested this unit extensively, so listen carefully: Vegito's 100% DEF boost only applies AFTER he attacks; in other words, even if Vegito's in the first slot, if you're attacked before he attacks himself, then he won't tank those hits.

This is a problem because he NEEDS to be in that first slot for half of his Passive to trigger, and for his Super Attack mechanic to effectily do anything.

And speaking of that mechanic; NO; he does NOT give your units the equivolent of a 50% ATK boost; under a SSJ4 Vegeta team, he gives your units about the equivolent of a 32-33% ATK boost. This is because the 30% to ATK he gives on his Passive applies to your units' actual ATK stats, while the 20% he gives when he Super Attacks is added unto your units 12 Ki Multipliers.

This is an important detail because in actuality, this only ups a unit's Multiplier by 0.2, which is nothing at all. This unit is supposed to be a tank that supports your units, yet he can't effectively do either of those things because Bandai botched his unit.

Its safe to say that he's the worse base Vegito in the game (after the SR Vegito, of course, but he only exists for Super Attack fodder).