Talk:Grim Reaper of Death's Rampage Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks/@comment-30321305-20170314130202/@comment-25031418-20170802073755

It's adorable how Luther Max thinks gogeta is used as a lead, and uses that assinine assuption to insist that gotenks is better. Gogeta is better than gotenks because:

1: In a well made deck, getting 12 ki is unavoidable. Putting cards in your deck specifically to avoid ki links will not only require you to add weak cards, but also prevent your other 5 cards from supering. Either your deck s crippled, or gotenks is crippled.

2: Gogeta will be on either a double omega or double bluegito team. With double omega, that's a permanent def down that turns gogeta's automatic super effective into  an absurdly strong attack. With double bluegito, you have 2 cards with counters AND additional attack, both of which along with gogeta are guaranteed to get their supers. On the other hand, gotenks on a super team is worse than an F2P card, because it's impossible for him to have less than 12 ki. To use his 11 ki super, you can't use good cards like bluegito.

3: Gogeta can go on EVERY team, because most events have multiple phases with different types. For example, in an AGI event where one of the bosses is INT, you can bring 5 TEQ cards, and gogeta. He doesn't need the leader ki, because his normal attack will do more damage to the INT than TEQ super attacks.