Talk:Tier List: Fusion/@comment-33526496-20171125213000/@comment-4199482-20171125214023

You mean keeping him undokkaned? I'd say a tier lower than his dokkan since he won't have Fierce Battle, Super Saiyan, or Golden Warrior. And his dokkaned form's +15% nuke passive is already looking a little lackluster imo so the undokkaned form's +10% nuke passive is just really meh. The only thing he's got going is Shocking Speed really, but ki shouldn't be a problem on Saiyan Fusion teams. I guess you would only keep him undokkaned if you have a better SSJ Gotenks and need to fill space with Base Gotenks.