Talk:Vile and Violent Turles/@comment-30465071-20161214184705/@comment-26208209-20161219004653

Not necesaarily; it takes as little as 9 provided that every one works. it's all a metter of luck. Just for example, I maxed out my INT Vegeta with base SR Vegetas, and quite literally I didn't even get one failure.

In the end, it's all just RNG and luck.