Talk:Invincible Battle Form Super Vegeta/Super Trunks/@comment-37558949-20190914040220/@comment-34021327-20190914213103

To offset the attack you need 19 super attacks by vegeta (38 turns of battle, assuming no additionals or the absolute worst. But realistically it should be like 35 or so)

to offset the defense you need only need 4. (7 turns)

Trunks is for the end of the fight anyways, you should try to stack with Vegeta as much as possible before even thinking of transforming. Transforming him early is just misusing him, you can get to like heights of 2mil after about 14 or so SAs with vegeta and then transforming