Talk:Golden Fist Super Saiyan 3 Goku/@comment-36699672-20180824174149/@comment-5610300-20180829131423

Just with the counters they can stack up more damage than the TEQ SSJ3 Goku, but with the LR SSJ3 Goku you don't have to wait on the transformation and they do a ton of damage just with their 18ki (if you can even get it off).

The problem with that goku is, if you can't get off that 18ki then they won't do that much...at all.