Talk:Apex of Supreme Saiyan Power Super Saiyan 4 Goku/@comment-33272261-20190130134003/@comment-27088769-20190130151801

They are not. People did the calculation when they were released.

The turns that dealt more damage always involved TEQ Vegito Blue with STR Black Rose, or INT SSJ3 Bardock with INT SSJ3 Gogeta. They didn't have a place in main rotations... And we're talking about 1 year ago, since then a lot of new cards have been released, so they're even more surclassed now, just think about Gogeta Blue

3rd anniversary cards are the weakest anniversary cards ever released. They never fuse, they have Ki issues, they're in their category teams just for the Leader Skills.

At least these two Super Saiyan 4s while underwhelming will oneshot last phases of Dokkan Bosses, it's still better than LR Goku & Vegeta and LR Goku & Vegeta Angel.