Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-28362353-20171009152445/@comment-32233739-20171017084652

the only thing that makes me question the whole Jiren is an avatar/mime/under the influence of Belmod in ToP is that when Toppo fought Goku in the zen exhibition match, Toppo said that Jiren was way more powerful than him.... meaning Jiren was already stronger... so unless Jiren has been a puppet for a long time, it makes it harder to believe...

but, then again, consistency hasnt always been Dragonballs strongest element....