Talk:The Tier List/@comment-29948962-20170727200103/@comment-31063493-20170728193635

^But Super STR doesn't need ki. SSJ Gohan brings nothing other then his passive which is still pretty meh. Super STR has so many good hard hitters and 2 great supports in SSJ3 Goku (GT)(GGA) and SSJ2 Bardock.

Also Gotenks gets outdamaged by Gogeta, SSJ GT Trunks, SSB Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan and Beeruses average. He needs to be first to outdamage SSJ3 Goku, Super Trunks, SSJ Gotenks and Pikkon.