Talk:All-or-nothing Punch Goku (Youth)/@comment-27885372-20190305151611/@comment-27885372-20190306173010

Well, considering Gogeta Blue needs to transform and seing how strong this card is at the same point of the apparition of Gogeta Blue, i think this Goku might be stronger in some situation, especially when the AS is usable...

I don't think it's the best TUR myself, i do think Gogeta Blue and Broly FP are stronger in most of the cases. But this one is definitively one of the best. If you look correctly, at the 5th turn, with Pan END and 50% HP, this dude have a damage potential of a 5.1M (on all types) + 2.35M = average 7.45M ATK for a DEF of 147K ! It's pretty dang good but you need to go below 50% HP and it's the most common problem. (Keep in mind that this is an average, with Bee Pan, he can reach the 10M, which is higher than Broly and Gogeta)

But clearly, and believe me because i think i've done enough calculation and watched enough videos to say that he is clearly in the TOP 5. (with Metal Cooler, Gogeta Blue, Broly FP and maybe Gogeta 4 or Android 17 (Super))