Talk:Proof of Power to Judge all of Creation Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rosé)/@comment-40124033-20200217232807/@comment-28362353-20200218010001

I'd thought it was just obvious but they just do so much more than Rose.

Vegito gets multiple supers, can do absurd damage, is self sustaining, can dodge, and has much more DEF than Rose

Gogeta is basically the same as vegito but not as much DEF in exchange for type effectiveness

And C&K can dodge, are self sustaining, super multiple times and infinitely stack DEF which makes them arguably the best tank in the game, doesnt really need all to much team building to get boosted.

Don't get me wrong, Rosé is extremely good, definitely top 10 (maybe top 5 but I still think that's a stretch), he has crazy damage, but he can have ki issues, and his rage restrictions aren't the best, his DEF is good but nothing crazy unless you get an additional super. Rose is great but I just can't see him as better than these three and therefore not #1 or top 3.