Talk:Power to Decimate Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta/@comment-28403591-20170515180416/@comment-28362353-20170516165329

Just because he had a mentor doesn't mean it's not a massive accomplishment. so by your logic, Goku needed the power of his friends to achieve SSG, so that isn't an accomplishment, and he needed Whis to achieve SSB, not an accomplishment. Vegeta achieved SSG on his own, unlike Goku, so that makes his acquiring of the SSG and SSB forms a bigger accomplishment than Goku's. And Vegeta never made a mistake when he fought Frieza, Frieza just came up with a way to get out of that situation by blowing up the planet, and I only used two examples from the manga. And even if all of my examples were from the manga, it doesn't matter, as the manga is still part of the story.